May 8, 2006

Notes From The Quran VS Bible Debate.
Isogenical Reading and is inconsistent with Shabirs previous statements. Does the islamic Apologist have the possibility to debate the validity of the Quran while dismissing the new testament? Muhammad did not have access to the scriptures, Therefore he had to deny the new testament. Do you reject the testimonies of those first hand witnessing Martyrs?
The Bible is the inspired word of God and the creative work of the men writing it. He doesnt need to criticize the word of God, because he believes it is the inspired word of God. James did not talk about the inspired word of God. , but how Shabir was wrong and his arguement is wrong. James has studied Shabir’s debates in the past and is debating Shabir in a future tense way, James is sending his rebuttal to what he thought Shabir was going to say. Shabir did not think that James said anything for the muslims in the crowd to be subjective of what is being taught. They have inserted their own thoughts and opinions accordingly. It is not contained in the New Testament. James feels we will never find discoveries that were before matthew mark luke and John. They believe that the gospel of thomas was before the four basic Gospels. James did not put a very good arguement forth of the authenticity of the arguement. Marked off of being doubtful passages. This verse is the latest removal of verses. The closing passage of the gospel according to mark. It is supposedly added after the original transcripts, if christians were to study the life of Jesus.
James is not debating an Athiest. This is not the debate at hand. Shabbir Al Lhi should not do so either. It is not whether the New Testament teaches its own inspiration. Giving an argument the past four years in sunday school. James has gone through much of those texts. MAtthew gives a much better account of the Life of Jesus Christ. He doesnt give us that information. James then proceeded to crack a bad joke. Mark himself and in the gospel that he has written gives a more complete down to the very detail of the Life of Jesus Christ. If Shabbir is giving the text of the Quran, if you do so, can you trust the teaching of the synoptic gospels, Can he in the New Testament? Any one of us can see this manuscript can see various new testament scriptures before the one we have now. One Quran has critical information that can prove the codescees. Then he burned all the rest, so there is no old documents. Another Bad joke was cracked on behalf of James. NO not your God. Someone said once that reincarnation was in the Bible, But James was able to disprove and discredit that in a heart beat. P72 was written 1800 years ago. If people tried to gather them up and try to delete the parts they dont like, these exact things. God has spoken. Submit if we use the same statements for the new testament. Matthew is writing to a different time and to a different audience. He does not have to detect them anymore. If we keep these things in mind, we have to give the same things to the Quran as we do to the New Testament
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Shabir read James book. 1 John 5 is an interpretation. the longer ending of mark not because it is different but also different in vocabulary. Other attempts at ending there is a short end and as well as a middle legnth and the long endings. The fact is that the middle shows that they have all the endings needed to show that one of them is the correct ending. Bad Joke Again. James feels it was an earlier providence. Dr Metzgirt says there was scribal changes in the text but no there is manuscript evidenceon these issues. Bad Jokes again. Before James goes to bed tonite, he will put in his online web blog what has happened at the debate tonite. Mark and Luke had a limited amount of space to write on. James shows they do not make themselves contradictory to those. the point is he is communicating in a shorter version he takes the elders out, throw all of the Martyrs out. If he had an mp3 player, he could play the account for Shabir. Because they are orientating does not mean its not the word of God. The arguement is weak on Shabirs part. Shabir messed up. The scriptures are what the holy spirit wants us to have. Not what is randomly entered in. Paul presented Jesus as the intermediary in 1 Corinthians 10:6. The Father is God and the Lord is Jesus. Would you say the followers of Jesus were victorious in what they have done? The understanding of this passage and the learning they have acknowledged to. What is in the Quran is in the Bible? All that is about Jesus being the son of God, preached about the son of God. Mark suffered from a point of view(John 1:1) NIV, is the son of God is not found in some of the most accurate and oldest transcripts. Manuscript evidence for the muslims versions of the gospels. The diety of Christ and the like. Did you say the Gospel of thomas is earlier then Mark? 66-75 AD was when mark was written and then Shabbir says that in the 50’s BC is when the gospel of Thomas was written. How can the gospel of thomas contain teachings that did not surface till at least 1 ad? The gospels preserve stuff in the actual gospels. Matthew is elevating the statue of Jesus and doesnt really speak of the correct Jesus? Christians were calling Jesus, Lord. They did not remember the scriptural passages. You do not know when the master of the House will come. Use a synoptic Gospel. Master of the house of the Change.